ciao lorbi,
a malincuore ho scoperto che non è nemmeno quello il problema...
la patch completa a cui sto lavorando è questa, anzi queste:
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
presentabilità a parte, la due cose a cui sto cercando di porre rimedio sono:
1) il fatto che ad ogni scatto del drunk (che controlla sample start-end) si senta quella specie di soffio, nonostante lo stesso drunk finisca in due line~ prima di arrivare al poly~
2) il fatto che quando il poly~ suona una voce già suonata in precedenza che aveva un pitch differente dalla seconda ripetizione della voce, per un istante rimane il pitch della prima voce; nonostante abbia impostato il tutto in modo tale che la sequenza di messaggi entranti nel poly~ sia pitch (via pfft~), poi trigger per l'adsr~ e in fine "startloop" per il groove~
per il primo problema in qualche modo me la risolvo; ma per il secondo brancolo paurosamente nel buio....
è per questo che chiedevo come scorporare velocity e note-off per eliminare il note-off che va a pfft~; pensavo che eliminando il secondo messaggio di pitch la cosa migliorasse...e invece manco per niente....

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EDIT: è quasi certamente un problema di priorità dei messaggi, ma non capisco dove sia l'errore....