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« il: Marzo 09, 2010, 11:55:23 »

Ciao a tutti, è la prima volta che scrivo qui.
Sto cercando di realizzare una patch con Max, vorrei modificare dei file audio registrati in diretta.
Ho usato l'oggetto record per prendere la mia voce, ma non riesco a superare il passaggio in cui lo carico dentro sfinfo perchè accetta solo messaggi. O meglio, lo posso aprire ma devo prima caricare il file, io invece vorrei creare un'interfaccia automatica che possa essere usata da chiunque. La modifica che stavo cercando di apportare è semplice, vorrei solamente farla velocizzare o rallentare usando i tasti numerici. Mi piacerebbe dividere il frammento appena registrato su quatro casse (ho scaricato l'oggetto msg.surround).

Qualucno ha idee?

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Stefania

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« Risposta #1 il: Marzo 09, 2010, 13:23:30 »

ciao
per fare ciò che vuoi devi utilizzare l'oggetto record~, che registra nell'oggetto buffer~, naturalmente devono avere lo stesso nome. per la lettura a a differenti velocità puoi utilizzare groove~ (anche questo con lo stesso nome).
per quanto riguarda la divisione del segnale audio su 4 casse, dipende da quello che vuoi fare, se il segnale che vuoi fare uscire dalle 4 casse è uguale puoi utilizzare semplicemente [dac 1 2 3 4].

prova ad essere + precisa.

ciao
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« Risposta #2 il: Marzo 09, 2010, 16:05:21 »

<pre><code>
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</code></pre>


ecco questa è la patch che sto facendo,
ora vorrei spezzettare il file che si registra a caso all'interno di quattro casse.

gentilissimo
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« Risposta #3 il: Marzo 09, 2010, 19:40:23 »

ciao

in questo momento non riesco a guardare la tua patch.
se per spezzettare intendi mandare ad ogni canale una parte differente del file registrato la soluzione + rapida è quella di utilizzare 4 oggetti groove~ (tutti con lo stesso nome) e mandare l'uscita di ogni groove~ ad ogni canale.
Per la selezione casuale dei pezzi random l'oggetto groove~ è perfetto, infatti è possibile definire il punto iniziale e il punto finale del loop tramite gli inlet 2 e 3, quindi puoi inviare all'inlet 2 un valore random (oggetto random) compreso tra 0 e un valore inferiore alla lunghezza massima del file, ed al 3 inlet un altro valore random, ma che sia sempre maggiore del valore inviato all'inlet 2.

spero di essere stato chiaro.
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« Risposta #4 il: Marzo 27, 2010, 00:02:42 »

posto qui la mia domanda cosi evito di aprire un ulteriore thread su groove~

Nel mio caso i valori di start point e end point non sono random ma vengono mandati in maniera sequenziale da un multislider con 8 slider (il buffer~ è diviso in 8 slices). Cambiando la posizione degli slider cambiano i valori e di conseguenza la lettura degli slices del buffer~. Quando però i bpm sono bassi ogni  singolo slice groove~  lo legge in loop fin quando non riceve i nuovi valori di start/ end point.
Come posso evitare il loop di ogni singola porzione del buffer~  ?

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« Risposta #5 il: Marzo 27, 2010, 09:41:08 »

ciao
basta inviare a groove~ il messaggio [loop 0] ed ogni volta che deve leggere una parte del file mandi il messaggio [startloop].

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« Risposta #6 il: Marzo 27, 2010, 14:25:13 »

grazie adesso provo

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« Risposta #7 il: Aprile 06, 2010, 21:00:12 »

Ho provato collegando startoop e loop 0, ho provato anche a collegare a loop 0 un delay dandogli il tempo di ritardo in modo da stoppare i loop degli slice ma niente....

Questa è la patch



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« Risposta #8 il: Aprile 06, 2010, 21:03:39 »

sorry è questa


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« Risposta #9 il: Aprile 07, 2010, 00:18:13 »

non ho capitp che vuoi fare con il secondo multislider, quindi puø´essere che non funzioni come desideri

ma cosí va

byesz

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« Risposta #10 il: Aprile 07, 2010, 14:09:40 »

Ciao grazie adesso va,
con il secondo multislider gestivo la grandezza del singolo slice, ma adesso non ha più senso, non avendo  la lettura in loop degli slices.
Dovrei trovare una soluzione che mi da la possibilità di avere la lettura in loop solo quando riduco la grandezza degli slices

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